Comments on: Tell the USDA what’s what. http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/ Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:41:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.2 By: Sam http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/#comment-15519 Sam Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:34:31 +0000 http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/#comment-15519 The good news is that, at least where I live (Minneapolis), local coops that actually have a commitment to things like local, organic, natural food aren't in the least fooled by the government's "official" standards. I suppose it's possible that there are untold thousands of Americans being fooled into buying nasty processed corporate food because the USDA has made a mockery out of a couple of key words, but I tend to think that for the most part, American consumers still don't really take the time to seriously consider where their food is coming from, anyway. For those of us who actually care, even a quick Google search can make it clear that what the USDA says about food is roughly as reliable as what the FCC says about media... The good news is that, at least where I live (Minneapolis), local coops that actually have a commitment to things like local, organic, natural food aren’t in the least fooled by the government’s “official” standards. I suppose it’s possible that there are untold thousands of Americans being fooled into buying nasty processed corporate food because the USDA has made a mockery out of a couple of key words, but I tend to think that for the most part, American consumers still don’t really take the time to seriously consider where their food is coming from, anyway. For those of us who actually care, even a quick Google search can make it clear that what the USDA says about food is roughly as reliable as what the FCC says about media…

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By: crabappleherbs http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/#comment-15545 crabappleherbs Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:06:14 +0000 http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/#comment-15545 Hi Sam. Yes, I think people who are really interested will always be able to figure it out somehow. But the "nefarious business" I was referring to is this: A group of small "real organic" farmers who couldn't afford the fees/paperwork involved in the big-industry-favoring USDA organic program got together and created their own label: "Certified Naturally Grown." And now the USDA is refusing to allow the use of that label on packages because it's in the process of officially defining what "naturally raised" means. So all that work those farmers did, setting up this grassroots system... is it out the window? That's the nefarious part. What's next? Someone said that they'd seen local meat advertised as "beef with no weird stuff." It's become a bizarre marketing cat-and-mouse game. I imagine you're aware that Pennsylvania is making it illegal to label milk from cows not treated with artificial growth hormones. I guess the strategy is to keep preventing small farmers from telling customers why their food is better than big agribusiness's "food." Muzzling the competition in the marketing arena is key when a package label is all a "consumer" has to go on... The real way around that is to create local systems (farmers' markets, etc.), in which people have more than a label to rely on for information about their food. Marketing wars... how very American, really. Hi Sam.

Yes, I think people who are really interested will always be able to figure it out somehow. But the “nefarious business” I was referring to is this: A group of small “real organic” farmers who couldn’t afford the fees/paperwork involved in the big-industry-favoring USDA organic program got together and created their own label: “Certified Naturally Grown.” And now the USDA is refusing to allow the use of that label on packages because it’s in the process of officially defining what “naturally raised” means. So all that work those farmers did, setting up this grassroots system… is it out the window? That’s the nefarious part.

What’s next? Someone said that they’d seen local meat advertised as “beef with no weird stuff.” It’s become a bizarre marketing cat-and-mouse game. I imagine you’re aware that Pennsylvania is making it illegal to label milk from cows not treated with artificial growth hormones. I guess the strategy is to keep preventing small farmers from telling customers why their food is better than big agribusiness’s “food.” Muzzling the competition in the marketing arena is key when a package label is all a “consumer” has to go on… The real way around that is to create local systems (farmers’ markets, etc.), in which people have more than a label to rely on for information about their food.

Marketing wars… how very American, really.

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By: Emilie http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/#comment-15546 Emilie Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:32:10 +0000 http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/#comment-15546 And today the USDA officially cleared the use of milk and meat from cloned animals. Why? On top of all the scary ick-- it doesn't seem very cost effective. And today the USDA officially cleared the use of milk and meat from cloned animals. Why? On top of all the scary ick– it doesn’t seem very cost effective.

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By: crabappleherbs http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/#comment-15549 crabappleherbs Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:50:09 +0000 http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/#comment-15549 Cost-effective, of course, is often a question of scale... "Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations" (aka CAFOs, aka Factory Farms) expect a significant percentage of their animals to die early due to the conditions -- but that's just factored into the cost of doing business. Somehow it's still profitable. Cost-effective, of course, is often a question of scale… “Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations” (aka CAFOs, aka Factory Farms) expect a significant percentage of their animals to die early due to the conditions — but that’s just factored into the cost of doing business. Somehow it’s still profitable.

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By: Emilie http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/#comment-15596 Emilie Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:44:55 +0000 http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/#comment-15596 Maybe I just don't understand the science of cloning but it seems to me that it has to be more expensive than some good old fashioned sperm. And cloned animals would be significantly more susceptible to disease. Maybe I just don’t understand the science of cloning but it seems to me that it has to be more expensive than some good old fashioned sperm. And cloned animals would be significantly more susceptible to disease.

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By: Kevin http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/#comment-15600 Kevin Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:21:31 +0000 http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/#comment-15600 You beat me by a couple of days. I should have visited your site earlier. I just blogged on this exact topic as well. I also have a link to sign a petition in my post. So, I don't know if I add anything to the discussion, but <a href="http://bartoy.blogspot.com/2008/01/what-does-it-mean-to-be-natural.html" rel="nofollow">you can check out my post here</a>. This is a serious case of deception. It is an attempt to place profit before health. And, we have to stand up against it. I fear government involvement in issues such as these since powerful industries have been spoonfeeding politicians for years. You beat me by a couple of days. I should have visited your site earlier. I just blogged on this exact topic as well. I also have a link to sign a petition in my post. So, I don’t know if I add anything to the discussion, but you can check out my post here.

This is a serious case of deception. It is an attempt to place profit before health. And, we have to stand up against it. I fear government involvement in issues such as these since powerful industries have been spoonfeeding politicians for years.

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By: crabappleherbs http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/#comment-15603 crabappleherbs Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:02:05 +0000 http://crabappleherbs.com/blog/2008/01/14/tell-the-usda-whats-what/#comment-15603 Emilie -- Sperm is just another commodity for CAFOs. They use artificial insemination rather than "good old fashioned breeding," so I suppose there might come a point when cloning would be more "economical" in corporate terms. Of course, that's time's not here yet. Though the FDA approved it, the USDA has asked farmers to continue their "voluntary moratorium" on cloned meat sales "to give the market time to get used to the idea" (paraphrased from the radio last night). Kevin -- The weird thing now is that in trying to strengthen (in their way) the official definition of "natural," the USDA is preventing truly natural farmers from using the label. Ugh. Emilie — Sperm is just another commodity for CAFOs. They use artificial insemination rather than “good old fashioned breeding,” so I suppose there might come a point when cloning would be more “economical” in corporate terms. Of course, that’s time’s not here yet. Though the FDA approved it, the USDA has asked farmers to continue their “voluntary moratorium” on cloned meat sales “to give the market time to get used to the idea” (paraphrased from the radio last night).

Kevin — The weird thing now is that in trying to strengthen (in their way) the official definition of “natural,” the USDA is preventing truly natural farmers from using the label. Ugh.

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